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posted by [personal profile] cathyr19355 at 10:57pm on 09/11/2006 under , ,
I am being defeated by a cat. A young, seven-pound, gray-and-white cat.

It's Princess, of course. Princess's campaign to keep Sugar on the margins of our lives is succeeding once more. She haunts the main hallway in our house, because that allows her to successfully patrol the basement doorway as well as the main bathroom, Eric's office, and all of the bedrooms, and she can charge Sugar and chase her back to the basement when she pleases. (And since we don't sit in the hallway all day, we can't always catch and stop her.) She has even gone so far as to charge Sugar *on our bed* to drive her away.

Worst of all, Sugar is tolerating this treatment, with only occasional token hissing.

My guess is that there were confrontations between the two of them when I was in Texas, and thus was unable to soak down the bedrooms with calming cat pheromones every night. Whatever the reason, we won't be able to keep Princess if she continues to try to monopolize me (much less of this behavior goes on when I'm not home, according to Eric) this way.

I have had enough of feeling as though I need a license just to be with my beloved older cat. So now, when Princess chases Sugar away at night, I shut Princess in my room, which is where her food, water and litter boxes are, leaving the path to the master bedroom clear. At least that way Sugar is willing to come upstairs and up on our bed with us again. Though Sugar's stopped waiting for me in the front window (Princess now does that) and coming into the bathroom to wait for me while I shower (Princess is usually patrolling the hallway in front of the bathroom door at that time of the morning). This is a less than optimal solution, because when Princess gets hungry, around 6:30 a.m. (my normal feeding time for the cats during the work week), Princess starts meowing loudly and clawing the hallway carpet under the door.

I am also trying to discourage Princess from hanging out in the hallway (by picking her up and moving her, if necessary). That often results in her nipping me, which she doesn't do hard enough to draw blood but does do hard enough to hurt. My efforts to discourage her from biting by hissing at her (or squirting her when I have the spray bottle handy) are not being any more successful than my efforts to keep her from gratuitously harassing Sugar.

The worst part about it is that Princess isn't really trying to hurt Sugar; she just wants to be our primary cat, and force Sugar onto the margins of our home and our lives. I don't want to keep Princess from spending time with us, or deny her the affection she obviously wants. But the current situation is wearing us out and sapping *our* morale, not just Sugar's.

Any suggestions for other things I might try to alleviate this situation would be greatly appreciated.
location: home
Mood:: 'frustrated' frustrated
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posted by [identity profile] fadethecat.livejournal.com at 04:37am on 10/11/2006
You mention cat pheremones. If you're using a spray bottle, I'd also recommend getting a plug-in unit for whatever's the most contested territory between the two, so that it's pumping happy-scent out into the air even when you're not around.

Beyond that, I'm afraid I don't have much useful advice. The only way we got the other cats to stop hounding George was by switching apartments three times until they'd all gotten so confused about territory they just decided to live with each other and be done with it.
 
posted by [identity profile] cathyr19355.livejournal.com at 05:46am on 11/11/2006
The plug-in is a decent idea. Guess I'll have to do a bit of shopping. At least, it will be easier than moving three times in rapid succession. :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] swordsister.livejournal.com at 04:39am on 10/11/2006
Oh, Cathy, what a difficult situation. I don't envy you. I have had my dogs jockey for position in similar ways. The mini-Schnauzer is the alpha bitch, having been here the longest, and the two greyhounds tolerate her and let her yap. However, the cat, Bad Mo Stankey, just does as he damn well pleases and lets the dogs have at it.

I guess this somehow reflects the world situation, but I'm still celebrating the election (except for Tennessee's miserable showing), and my mind is slightly befuddled with a Tennessee product, the famous Black Jack.

More celebration to come before reality sets in.

Natalie
 
posted by [identity profile] cathyr19355.livejournal.com at 05:47am on 11/11/2006
Enjpy this moment while it lasts, and thanks for the sympathy.
 
posted by [identity profile] sheilagh.livejournal.com at 05:17am on 10/11/2006
My cats have started new routines of harrassment in the past 3-4 weeks. Habibi, formerly sweet to all, if a bit spunky, has been hissing and chasing HeyGirl, who fights back (now, didn't used to) .. lots of weirdness & puffy tails.

Neighbor guy's two outdoor cats have also been harrassing one another.

Does your house have many warm spots for cats to snuggle up if the people aren't providing warm spots? I've seen my cats get all cozy with one another on little cat-sized heated beds...


I don't see how this can be placebo stuff, since cats aren't going to listen to me telling them what the remedy is supposed to do, but I've had success in treating some cat illnesses with homeopathic Nux Vomica based on Veterinarians Guide to Natural Remedies for Cats (isbn 0609803735). I wouldn't have tried it, but a wise & dog-loving colleague had mentioned Nux Vomica providing very successful results when his dobermans were ill.

I'm going to research more on this approach, in hopes that maybe some homeopathic remedy might chill my cats out. At $5 a little bottle, it's easy to try, at least.

This brand of Nux Vomica: http://www.boironusa.com/

Good luck! Please let us know if you find anything that works?
 
posted by [identity profile] cathyr19355.livejournal.com at 05:56am on 11/11/2006
Does your house have many warm spots for cats to snuggle up if the people aren't providing warm spots? I've seen my cats get all cozy with one another on little cat-sized heated beds...

My house has plenty of quiet, snuggly spots. It also has a heated waterbed that's big enough for the two of them and my husband and me at the same time. But what my cats are competing for is not so much locations, it's access to me. I know this because of the way Princess follows me around when I move around the house, and the way she ignores (and lets Sugar stay in) locations I'm not occupying.

On the bright side, I haven't seen any puffy tails, and no real attempts by either cat to injure the other. No, it's all posturing and positioning. Princess doesn't seem to have anything against Sugar, so long as Sugar stays in the background.

 
posted by [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com at 07:55am on 10/11/2006
I've heard that a high-pitched "meep" or other appropriate kittenish sound when you're aggressed against can discourage a cat from hurting you. It's probably worth a try.

I spent a fair amount of time telling Ra what a big tough cat he is (not a word of it true), and he did eventually start standing up to Gillian. When he did, I backed him up, moderately. Now, I'd say she's still dominant (though she was never as aggressive as Princess), but not enough to restrict Ra's life significantly.

On the other hand, it didn't solve any of the litterbox problems with him. Maybe I should put more time telling him that he's a nice civilized cat with good manners.

Also, (though I'm not quite as careful about this now), when a new cat comes in, I make sure that everyone within sight gets petted, so as to discourage jeaslousy.

So far as unscientific methods go, try visualizing how you want your cats to behave. I don't know whether it's telepathy, or just that visualizing makes your body language and tone of voice more communicative.
 
posted by [identity profile] sheilagh.livejournal.com at 05:02pm on 10/11/2006
in very short doses, when my cats would attach my feet under bedclothes, I would meep or shriek briefly, emitting "you scareded me!!" emotions. The offending attack cat would mirror this emotion and back off, looking scared.

Seems to be similar with anger, if I yell at them, they stand up to me, angry right back.
 
posted by [identity profile] cathyr19355.livejournal.com at 05:52am on 11/11/2006
You make a good point about the mirroring, but to tell the truth it's hard for me not to get angry at Princess. So much of her behavior is an attempt to keep my attention exclusively on her, and even if Sugar weren't in the picture, I find that kind of behavior tough to take even from humans.
 
posted by [identity profile] cathyr19355.livejournal.com at 05:51am on 11/11/2006
I usually said "ouch!" when Sugar would accidentally bite or claw me, and that worked well enough. On the other hand, I think part of the reason Princess bites and grabs (my leg or arm) is either to stop me from doing what I'm doing or to get my attention so that I'll play with her. She stops quickly once I hiss; but it doesn't stop her from doing it again the next time.

I am presently trying to boost Sugar's esteem by taking her side. I didn't want to have to do that, but I see no other options and it's helping a bit; at least she comes out during the day when I'm not here to spend time with Eric. When I'm home, Princess is usually following me around, so Sugar is less likely to try to come to me, unless I'm in the basement.

As for the telepathy idea, I've been trying to do that, but I'll try to be more consistent about it and see if that helps.

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